Jewellery Insurance - the nightmare in Norwich Union street 2 - Jack's revenge!

Call me Jack.

Following on from my last post about how much you should get for your insured jewellery loss - to summarise - my opinion was if your jewellery is insured for a certain amount then you are paying the premiums based on that amount and you should get exactly that if your valuation was accepted by the insurer.  Simple really ... but no, apparently not ever that simple.

Again, we had a run in with Norwich Union.  This time, it was a piece of jewellery which we had valued to around £6500 a few years before the loss.  We valued it the way we always do - see my who should be able to value jewellery post for that.  At the time they told us they were insured with Norwich Union and we did mention the problems of this type of insurer versus a specialist insurer such as T H March for example.

OK.  So our client was expecting to get offered £6500.  But Norwich Union had passed our detailed valuation on to a third party valuation service called iVal, who valued this piece just over one third of what we said it was.  Of course, the customer came back to us and questioned the validity of our valuation.  It was easy to get them to understand why, as when we tried to find the main stone we had to go abroad as none of the gem dealers had a replacement in the UK.  We did however get a wholesale price for the stone alone in writing and that came to around the same as what iVal had valued the whole piece at.

This we gave to the customer, with our quote for replacement of the whole piece by us at retail (several diamonds, the main stone, the metal and the work) which came to around 10% over the insured value carried out a few years previously by us.  As we didn't expect the insurance company to use us to replace the item (we are certainly not a preferred jeweller as far as the insurance companies are concerned) we didn't mind telling them exactly what our wholesale value was should we make it for another jeweller to sell at retail - which don't do any more, but we used to so we are well versed with the mechanics of other retailers and their mark ups.

Several months went by and we forgot about it.  Then one day the client returned and said they were still struggling with their insurance claim and could we take it up on their behalf.  We said we would and I phoned Norwich Union.  They had already passed this case on to a third party agent in this case, so I phoned them.  Once we had gotten past the I can't talk to you as you're not the client bit, I asked why their cash offer was so paltry.  The told me they had had two other replacement quotes including ours.  I said I wasn't aware we had submitted a replacement quote - of course the client had on our behalf so this was news to me.

The rather rude agent dealing with the case said we were 3 times as expensive as their nearest quote to replace.  I told him to hold on for a second - how was he valuing this piece, as he had our replacement valuation of the piece, he must also have the wholesale price of the stone from the dealer.  Silence.  "Er.  Yes" he said.  "But we have the full iVal appraisal and the quotes to remake like for like".

OK, so how did iVal appraise a piece they haven't even seen - my partner, the expert in this area, phoned them up and asked to speak to the valuer who had appraised the item.  The conversation was hilarious culminating with my partner asking if the valuer was actually a gemologist and knew the difference between an "x" version of this stone and a "y" version.  The valuer was stumped on both questions and refused to answer - we took that to mean she wasn't qualified to make this determination at all.  This was pointless.  We looked her up on their website.  She was in training.  Their website has mysteriously vanished at the time of writing this.

So, back to the third party agent in charge of the case.  "Who's going to make this at those prices then" I asked.  "Signet (H.Samuels, Ernest Jones) or Goldsmiths"  he said, gleefully, as if he'd scored a hatrick against me.  "Where?" I asked.  "Erm ... In their workshops".  His glee turned to gloom as I explained the facts about both these companies.  They, like many high street jewellers have all their manufacturing outsourced to the Far East.  "so you reckon the quality will be as good as the original made in the 1930's by an English jeweller then?"  I retorted.  "Well. Yes ...  Oh, I don't know I'm not the jeweller am I".  He knew he was defeated.

We ended up remaking the item for the client, at our wholesale price to the insurer. The client agreed to take a lesser value stone of the the same quality and slightly less diamonds of the same quality and to pay a proportion themselves to make up the value to something achievable.  They were happy with the result.  To be honest, we didn't really cover our time satisfactorily, but at least we scored a few points against the insurers.

Not really what you would call a complete victory, but nevertheless it got the point across that insurers were on a sticky wicket when it comes to these sorts of valuations and offers.  this was back in 2007.  In 2008 at the Loughborough Insurance Conference, these points were raised and it was informally agreed that forcing the clients to use only the preferred insurer is morally wrong but as yet not legally tested.  I'd like to think we had some influence on this, though judging from the number of incidents cited on the internet, our cases are few of many and still insurers pressurize customers into using preferred jewellers.  Here is a 2007 example on a forum

Shame, shame on you Norwich Union and iVal.